In this episode Elizabeth chats with Christelle Tessono who is a doctoral student at the University of Toronto and a researcher at The Dais, to unpack what AI governance really means. They chat about AI as a socio-technical system which includes the technology but also the labor, land, water and infrastructure behind it. The conversation traces Canada’s Federal AI policy landscape and provincial response like Quebec’s Law 25 and Onatrio’s Bill 194.  Christelle argues initiatives about AI governance need to come from collaboration between people  across a wide range of departments and agencies as well as beyond government. Additional Resources:Read Bureaucratic Silences: What the Canadian AI Register Reveals, Omits, and Obscures where Christelle and her colleagues delve into the Canadian federal Public AI Register. The Department of Innovation, Science and Economic Development (ISED) lead most of Canada’s Federal initiatives. Some of the initiatives mentioned in the episode are:   AI for All, AI Literacy Initiative, and Pan-Canadian AI Strategy. Check out  Canadian Safety Institute to learn more about the professional training and consulting organization that specializes in health, safety, and environmental (HSE) management.Read AI Companions and Canada’s Digital Safety Act, a report from CIGI, to understand the growing challenge for the Canadian government with the youth fostering ongoing emotional relationships with chatbots in the wake of the tragedy in Tumbler Ridge in B.C.Check out Christelle on LinkedIn and Bluesky as well!ContributorsHost: Elizabeth DuboisResearch Lead: Nathan Kazmir PoklarTranscript: Areej El-SharifAudio Editing: Sarah Pledge-DicksonTranslation: Julianne Bernier RobertPublishing and Promotion: Aaron BrissonProducer: Sarah Pledge-Dickson  Check out www.polcommtech.ca for annotated transcripts of this episode in English and French.